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This happened cause of the Cold War. Western European workers were jealous of the benefits of their USSR/Warsaw Pact counterparts. To keep them from turning communist, the US paid for Europe’s defense so Europe could spend more on welfare
I agree with Trump on like ONE thing and that’s the idea of Europe getting serious about their own defense. You have a huge economy and a huge population, why tf are you expecting us to take care of it when your continent is invaded
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Anonymous 16w

Now that the USSR is gone, this arrangement is totally irrelevant but it’s stuck around cause getting rid of it suddenly would upend the global order

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Anonymous 16w

I want to see evidence of this outside of some Marxist website or Marxist author bruh. Empirical analysis

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

“I want to see evidence for evolution outside of some biology textbook or scientific paper”

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

biology is a hard science, dialectical materialism is not. Sorry not sorry. Brainwashed mf

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Anonymous 16w

The funding of anti-communism in the Marshall plan isn’t based on worries that people were gonna turn on their governments, it’s that nations were afraid the USSR was going to instill those puppet regimes because, yknow, they were the 2nd nuclear power sitting right next to fucking Europe.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

Have you heard of Operation Gladio? Particularly in Italy, it was focused on repressing INTERNAL communist, socialist, and trade unionist movements

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

The controversial operation to suppress internal and external communist operations by means of false flagging? Yes I’ve heard of it. Have you heard of the anarcho syndaclist methods of establishing a national union? It isn’t morally acceptable, either. Play dirty, get played dirty.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

Missing the point. I’m just describing what happened

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

How am I missing the point?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

Or I guess a better question is what is the point I’m missing?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

I’m not moralizing about any of this, and I’m not interested in equivocating about whether the west or the soviets were more moral. Total waste of time to discuss as both did heinous things

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

Shit that much we can agree on. War and tension are hell. Marxism is still fucking stupid though.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

There are two types of people: Marxists and people who don’t understand Marxism 😛

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

Wait I forgot the third type: Marxists who don’t understand Marxism

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

So in what way don’t I understand it?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

Unless you’re just trolling, which is honestly more plausible than a Marxist actually explaining Marxism without beating around the bush on supporting authoritarianism

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

Buddy, containment was a fundamental pillar of US foreign policy during the Cold War. This isn’t an ideological viewpoint it’s objectively what happened.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 16w

In response to expansionism of the Soviet Union, yes. I’m not denying that, buddy

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

Again, this is not an ideological argument this is you misunderstanding Cold War history. USSR “expansionism” went hand in hand with fomenting communist sympathies in foreign nations and taking advantage of pre-existing communism. Thus a top priority of US foreign policy was to eliminate those sympathies at home and abroad. Like Senator McCarthy and the blacklists. Read a book, buddy!

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 16w

Not an argument of ideology, an argument of reality. Those “sympathies” were more often than not the very thing communists accuse American capitalism of: international financial and weapons assistance to pre-existing parties or parties installed to encourage political turbulence by the USSR. They were not the only existing parties, nor were they the most popular. They were puppet regimes. So yes, a top priority was preventing that. We can go back and forth on this bs all day long.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

So stop replying fool.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 16w

Stop treating Soviet communism as this moral pillar when it committed the same foreign policy tactics as the U.S. lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

I didn’t do that? You’re assuming my viewpoint bc you are coming at this ideologically, again. Fool.

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